Comments on: Crozet and Waynesboro http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/ Tracking Charlottesville's Real Estate Market since 2005 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Jim Duncan http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-973 Jim Duncan Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:54:41 +0000 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-973 I emailed <a href="http://www.tjpdc.org/" rel="nofollow">TJPDC</a> and received this answer: Metropolitan statistical area (MSA) A geographic entity defined by the federal Office of Management and Budget for use by federal statistical agencies, based on the concept of a core area with a large population nucleus, plus adjacent communities having a high degree of economic and social integration with that core. Qualification of an MSA requires the presence of a city with 50,000 or more inhabitants, or the presence of an Urbanized Area (UA) and a total population of at least 100,000 (75,000 in New England). The county or counties containing the largest city and surrounding densely settled territory are central counties of the MSA. Additional outlying counties qualify to be included in the MSA by meeting certain other criteria of metropolitan character, such as a specified minimum population density or percentage of the population that is urban. MSAs in New England are defined in terms of minor civil divisions, following rules concerning commuting and population density. I emailed TJPDC and received this answer:

Metropolitan statistical area (MSA)
A geographic entity defined by the federal Office of Management and Budget for use by federal statistical agencies, based on the concept of a core area with a large population nucleus, plus adjacent communities having a high degree of economic and social integration with that core. Qualification of an MSA requires the presence of a city with 50,000 or more inhabitants, or the presence of an Urbanized Area (UA) and a total population of at least 100,000 (75,000 in New England). The county or counties containing the largest city and surrounding densely settled territory are central counties of the MSA. Additional outlying counties qualify to be included in the MSA by meeting certain other criteria of metropolitan character, such as a specified minimum population density or percentage of the population that is urban. MSAs in New England are defined in terms of minor civil divisions, following rules concerning commuting and population density.

]]> By: Jim Duncan http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-972 Jim Duncan Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:18:32 +0000 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-972 I cannot disagree with you there - having driven over Afton for years in good weather and bad - sometimes being able to see only one dotted line to the next - and having clients tell me that the fog is why they moved over to CharlAlbemarle - the mountain is daunting (and this sentence is run-on). With the advent of <a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/184/report_display.asp" rel="nofollow">rapid adoption of broadband</a>, boundaries presented by seemingly arbitrary county and city lines are beginning to fade. I'll get back to you regarding the MSAs. I cannot disagree with you there – having driven over Afton for years in good weather and bad – sometimes being able to see only one dotted line to the next – and having clients tell me that the fog is why they moved over to CharlAlbemarle – the mountain is daunting (and this sentence is run-on).

With the advent of rapid adoption of broadband, boundaries presented by seemingly arbitrary county and city lines are beginning to fade.

I’ll get back to you regarding the MSAs.

]]> By: UVA08 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-971 UVA08 Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:34:39 +0000 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-971 I think the only thing literally standing in the way of (even more) massive growth in Waynesboro and it becoming more of a suburb of Charlottesville is Afton Mountain. It can be quite treacherous to cross during fog or bad weather. Other than that it's a solid affordable alternative to Charlottesville-Albemarle and with the increasing prices in once affordable Greene, Fluvanna, and Louisa it will become more appealing. Jim how exactly do they determine what a metro area is? I know commuting patterns play a big part but it can't possibly be all of it due to the fact that Madison, Louisa, Orange, and Buckingham haven't been added to the metro area yet. It will be interesting to see what counties are added in the coming years. I though the Nelson add was a bit delayed myself. I think the only thing literally standing in the way of (even more) massive growth in Waynesboro and it becoming more of a suburb of Charlottesville is Afton Mountain. It can be quite treacherous to cross during fog or bad weather. Other than that it’s a solid affordable alternative to Charlottesville-Albemarle and with the increasing prices in once affordable Greene, Fluvanna, and Louisa it will become more appealing.

Jim how exactly do they determine what a metro area is? I know commuting patterns play a big part but it can’t possibly be all of it due to the fact that Madison, Louisa, Orange, and Buckingham haven’t been added to the metro area yet. It will be interesting to see what counties are added in the coming years. I though the Nelson add was a bit delayed myself.

]]> By: Jim Duncan http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-962 Jim Duncan Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:52:44 +0000 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-962 The best thing about 29's move over the mountain is that they are expanding the reach of their red jackets. In a meeting recently, another Realtor from Waynesboro mentioned that they were CharlAlbemarle's solution to affordable housing. Can't say that I necessarily disagree. The best thing about 29′s move over the mountain is that they are expanding the reach of their red jackets.

In a meeting recently, another Realtor from Waynesboro mentioned that they were CharlAlbemarle’s solution to affordable housing. Can’t say that I necessarily disagree.

]]> By: TrvlnMn http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-961 TrvlnMn Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:32:04 +0000 http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/14/crozet-and-waynesboro/#comment-961 I've always thought it's no doubt that Waynesboro benefits from the Cville area's growth, the high cost of real estate in Charlottesville was direct factor in that growth. I've known a few people who opted for the more affordable cost of housing in Wayneboro, and a longer commute to their jobs in Cville. I also think the expansion of NBC 29's newsroom to Augusta County is further evidence of Waynesboro's regional inclusion with the Cville/Albemarle area. It's all part of that Los Angeles style sprawl, that is starting to take over (a bit) in this area, where each community blends into the next whith almost no definition between where one area ends and the next begins. I’ve always thought it’s no doubt that Waynesboro benefits from the Cville area’s growth, the high cost of real estate in Charlottesville was direct factor in that growth. I’ve known a few people who opted for the more affordable cost of housing in Wayneboro, and a longer commute to their jobs in Cville.

I also think the expansion of NBC 29′s newsroom to Augusta County is further evidence of Waynesboro’s regional inclusion with the Cville/Albemarle area.

It’s all part of that Los Angeles style sprawl, that is starting to take over (a bit) in this area, where each community blends into the next whith almost no definition between where one area ends and the next begins.

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