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	<title>Comments on: Tracking real estate stocks &#8211; Google Finance Style</title>
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	<description>Tracking Charlottesville&#039;s Real Estate Market since 2005</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/07/02/tracking-real-estate-stocks-google-finance-style/comment-page-1/#comment-8316</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That blockquote is from this:


My &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/01/01/my-predictions-for-2007/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Predictions for 2007 post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That blockquote is from this:</p>
<p>My <a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/01/01/my-predictions-for-2007/" rel="nofollow">Predictions for 2007 post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/07/02/tracking-real-estate-stocks-google-finance-style/comment-page-1/#comment-8315</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t get around WordPress keeping me from posting more than 3 links:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/10/two-real-estate-cycles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Last year I argued that we are in the midst of two distinct real estate cycles&lt;/a&gt;.
Also, 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/02/16/market-cap-on-charlottesville-prices/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is there a market cap on Charlottesville prices?&lt;/a&gt;
and - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2005/08/18/cvilles-bubble/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My &quot;maybe&quot; answer from 2005&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t get around WordPress keeping me from posting more than 3 links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/08/10/two-real-estate-cycles/" rel="nofollow">Last year I argued that we are in the midst of two distinct real estate cycles</a>.<br />
Also,<br />
<a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/02/16/market-cap-on-charlottesville-prices/" rel="nofollow">Is there a market cap on Charlottesville prices?</a><br />
and &#8211; <a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2005/08/18/cvilles-bubble/" rel="nofollow">My &#8220;maybe&#8221; answer from 2005</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/07/02/tracking-real-estate-stocks-google-finance-style/comment-page-1/#comment-8314</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR -

Thanks for the comment. 

First, let me second your thought about NAR and expand a little bit - I think that their constant rosy predictions over the past 8-12 months have done significant damage to their, and to a certain but lesser degree my, credibility. I noted their &quot;great time to buy or sell&quot; campaign &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/11/04/regarding-nars-new-campaign/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last year&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m optimistic for a couple of reasons, including those you mention. 

- UVA
- low unemployment
- NGIC
- Wal-Mart
- State Farm
- SNL
- the large number of small businesses, tech and the like that contribute enormously to our economy and culture.
- That our region is a &quot;destination&quot; for many

I think that there has been too much new construction - across all price ranges. As these get absorbed, we may (should?) return to a more sustainable level of real estate. 

Regarding the outlying areas, I&#039;d agree to certain degree. I see that more people are trending towards urbanized centers. 

I can&#039;t tell you how impressed I am with myself that I was able to find this story in my feed reader - I distrust much of what the UN does and saays, but I&#039;ll cherry pick this article - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/world/27cnd-population.html?ex=1340683200&amp;en=26554b183d296216&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Half the World soon to be in Cities&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;2. Home sales and prices will continue to rise at a more “normal” level - perhaps a 5-7% increase in value YoY rather than 15-20% increase in value. This qualifies as a “good thing.”

3. There will be fewer “discretionary” moves and “move-ups.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR -</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. </p>
<p>First, let me second your thought about NAR and expand a little bit &#8211; I think that their constant rosy predictions over the past 8-12 months have done significant damage to their, and to a certain but lesser degree my, credibility. I noted their &#8220;great time to buy or sell&#8221; campaign <a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/11/04/regarding-nars-new-campaign/" rel="nofollow">last year</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m optimistic for a couple of reasons, including those you mention. </p>
<p>- UVA<br />
- low unemployment<br />
- NGIC<br />
- Wal-Mart<br />
- State Farm<br />
- SNL<br />
- the large number of small businesses, tech and the like that contribute enormously to our economy and culture.<br />
- That our region is a &#8220;destination&#8221; for many</p>
<p>I think that there has been too much new construction &#8211; across all price ranges. As these get absorbed, we may (should?) return to a more sustainable level of real estate. </p>
<p>Regarding the outlying areas, I&#8217;d agree to certain degree. I see that more people are trending towards urbanized centers. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how impressed I am with myself that I was able to find this story in my feed reader &#8211; I distrust much of what the UN does and saays, but I&#8217;ll cherry pick this article &#8211; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/world/27cnd-population.html?ex=1340683200&amp;en=26554b183d296216&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink" rel="nofollow">Half the World soon to be in Cities</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>2. Home sales and prices will continue to rise at a more “normal” level &#8211; perhaps a 5-7% increase in value YoY rather than 15-20% increase in value. This qualifies as a “good thing.”</p>
<p>3. There will be fewer “discretionary” moves and “move-ups.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JR Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/07/02/tracking-real-estate-stocks-google-finance-style/comment-page-1/#comment-8313</link>
		<dc:creator>JR Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim- I&#039;d be interested in more detail about why you&#039;re optimistic about a turnaround locally, given that this cycle in its entirety really doesn&#039;t seem to correlate with past cycles. Shouldn&#039;t the massive bubble of 2003-2005 be followed by a correction of similar amplitude?
Sure there are factors suggesting a floor to the local market - the presence of UVa, NGIC expansion, etc. But we&#039;ve also been in a period of historically low rates of unemployment and interest. 
Having talked recently with some friends of mine in the real estate business who operate mostly in outlying areas, I&#039;ve never seen them so discouraged about the direction of the market. I know that the NAR &quot;economists&quot; are suggesting improvements, but their track record over the last 6-8 months or so should have removed any lingering credibility they might have had IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim- I&#8217;d be interested in more detail about why you&#8217;re optimistic about a turnaround locally, given that this cycle in its entirety really doesn&#8217;t seem to correlate with past cycles. Shouldn&#8217;t the massive bubble of 2003-2005 be followed by a correction of similar amplitude?<br />
Sure there are factors suggesting a floor to the local market &#8211; the presence of UVa, NGIC expansion, etc. But we&#8217;ve also been in a period of historically low rates of unemployment and interest.<br />
Having talked recently with some friends of mine in the real estate business who operate mostly in outlying areas, I&#8217;ve never seen them so discouraged about the direction of the market. I know that the NAR &#8220;economists&#8221; are suggesting improvements, but their track record over the last 6-8 months or so should have removed any lingering credibility they might have had IMHO.</p>
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