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	<title>Comments on: Charlottesville&#8217;s Town Centers</title>
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		<title>By: Walkability on 29 North &#8211; A Work in Progress? &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-28515</link>
		<dc:creator>Walkability on 29 North &#8211; A Work in Progress? &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Howsare walks from Laurel Park behind the Hollymead Town Center to the Harris Teeter in said Town Center. From what is supposed to be a &#8220;walkable&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Howsare walks from Laurel Park behind the Hollymead Town Center to the Harris Teeter in said Town Center. From what is supposed to be a &#8220;walkable&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charlottesville Rail Service for Tourists &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-27545</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlottesville Rail Service for Tourists &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charlottesville&#8217;s Town Centers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Diverse Solutions Introduces Partnership with Walkscore &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-26217</link>
		<dc:creator>Diverse Solutions Introduces Partnership with Walkscore &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Albemarle or the other surrounding counties are very concerned about walkability. I&#8217;ve written about being able to walk or bike to &#8220;stuff&#8221; many times over the years. Heck, I&#8217;ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Albemarle or the other surrounding counties are very concerned about walkability. I&#8217;ve written about being able to walk or bike to &#8220;stuff&#8221; many times over the years. Heck, I&#8217;ve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Slums of Tomorrow Might Be here Today &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-21100</link>
		<dc:creator>The Slums of Tomorrow Might Be here Today &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the surrounding communities as being &#8220;close enough&#8221; to each other with enough &#8220;town centers&#8221; to support self-sufficient communities outside of the City center. (see this Charlottesville [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the surrounding communities as being &#8220;close enough&#8221; to each other with enough &#8220;town centers&#8221; to support self-sufficient communities outside of the City center. (see this Charlottesville [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Where Are the Walkable Neighborhoods in Charlottesville/Albemarle? &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-20291</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Are the Walkable Neighborhoods in Charlottesville/Albemarle? &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People want to be able to walk to stuff. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Solution to Sprawl &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-15734</link>
		<dc:creator>The Solution to Sprawl &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Map of CharlAlbemarle Town Centers, and an explanation of these sub-regions. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I really question is selling the idea of town centers in the County.  I think they make perfect sense for Crozet and Charlottesville, but I&#039;m not sure it could work in other areas where they are being pushed.  I do think better models of development are necessary, but personally I&#039;d rather see more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qroefarm.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Preservation Development&lt;/a&gt; or other mechanisms that combine the best features of urban and rural spaces. 

That said, I don&#039;t think we need to toss the entire neighborhood model concept out the window either.  There are feature to Developments that we really need to address.   I repeatedly hear from friends who move from rural areas into subdivisions that they knew their neighbors &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; when they were a mile away (or more).  Neighborhoods need simple features like sidewalks, community gathering spots, and other features that encourage community interaction.  The old cul-de-sac model just doesn&#039;t work, and can no longer be considered sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really question is selling the idea of town centers in the County.  I think they make perfect sense for Crozet and Charlottesville, but I&#8217;m not sure it could work in other areas where they are being pushed.  I do think better models of development are necessary, but personally I&#8217;d rather see more <a href="http://www.qroefarm.com/" rel="nofollow">Preservation Development</a> or other mechanisms that combine the best features of urban and rural spaces. </p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think we need to toss the entire neighborhood model concept out the window either.  There are feature to Developments that we really need to address.   I repeatedly hear from friends who move from rural areas into subdivisions that they knew their neighbors <i>better</i> when they were a mile away (or more).  Neighborhoods need simple features like sidewalks, community gathering spots, and other features that encourage community interaction.  The old cul-de-sac model just doesn&#8217;t work, and can no longer be considered sustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments.

Josh - you are absolutely right. What irritates/concerns me is the hypocrisy of those building &quot;pedestrian friendly&quot; developments when clearly at this (or the near/distant future) stage of our region&#039;s development, that&#039;s a false selling point. 

Sean &amp; Josh - Absolutely. Until our region has a viable transit network, we&#039;ve got a long, long way to go.

Using the Hollymead Town Center as an example - &lt;em&gt;who&lt;/em&gt; is going to access it by bike? Crossing 29 North is a lesson in futility or mortality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments.</p>
<p>Josh &#8211; you are absolutely right. What irritates/concerns me is the hypocrisy of those building &#8220;pedestrian friendly&#8221; developments when clearly at this (or the near/distant future) stage of our region&#8217;s development, that&#8217;s a false selling point. </p>
<p>Sean &amp; Josh &#8211; Absolutely. Until our region has a viable transit network, we&#8217;ve got a long, long way to go.</p>
<p>Using the Hollymead Town Center as an example &#8211; <em>who</em> is going to access it by bike? Crossing 29 North is a lesson in futility or mortality.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshC</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10902</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Pentagon Row is superior in the new-urbanist genre to RTC.  It exists in a high-density subregion where people can truly live without cars (and could do so, though not as easily, before PR came along), and can access many other parts of the larger region through convenient, high-frequency mass transit.  I lived within a mile of Reston Town Center for about three years, and Neil&#039;s 80%-drivers estimate is conservative.  And here&#039;s why: you can&#039;t go without a car in western Fairfax County, even if you do live in the nonexistent perfect new-urbanist development, because you can&#039;t get to anywhere else easily without one.  Going without a car there turns you into a resident of an over-retailed small town with a sky-high cost of living.  That&#039;s not why people move to Fairfax County.

It&#039;s great that people are thinking about smart growth in Charlottesville, but this is not a large metropolis, and no matter how great our bus system becomes, a huge portion of the region&#039;s population will remain unserved/underserved by it.  This is not Arlington or Alexandria.  We have no Metro, nor is one coming.  Our population density is not that high, nor are we that rich, nor (thankfully) are we that eminent-domain-happy.  No &quot;town center&quot; development that discourages drive-in traffic could survive here outside of very close proximity to the UVa campus and downtown (i.e. close enough for students to walk) -- there&#039;s just not enough money that can/will walk onto a property on the fringe.  Let&#039;s be realistic about the need to serve vehicular traffic and we&#039;ll all be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Pentagon Row is superior in the new-urbanist genre to RTC.  It exists in a high-density subregion where people can truly live without cars (and could do so, though not as easily, before PR came along), and can access many other parts of the larger region through convenient, high-frequency mass transit.  I lived within a mile of Reston Town Center for about three years, and Neil&#8217;s 80%-drivers estimate is conservative.  And here&#8217;s why: you can&#8217;t go without a car in western Fairfax County, even if you do live in the nonexistent perfect new-urbanist development, because you can&#8217;t get to anywhere else easily without one.  Going without a car there turns you into a resident of an over-retailed small town with a sky-high cost of living.  That&#8217;s not why people move to Fairfax County.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that people are thinking about smart growth in Charlottesville, but this is not a large metropolis, and no matter how great our bus system becomes, a huge portion of the region&#8217;s population will remain unserved/underserved by it.  This is not Arlington or Alexandria.  We have no Metro, nor is one coming.  Our population density is not that high, nor are we that rich, nor (thankfully) are we that eminent-domain-happy.  No &#8220;town center&#8221; development that discourages drive-in traffic could survive here outside of very close proximity to the UVa campus and downtown (i.e. close enough for students to walk) &#8212; there&#8217;s just not enough money that can/will walk onto a property on the fringe.  Let&#8217;s be realistic about the need to serve vehicular traffic and we&#8217;ll all be better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10901</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pentagon Row in Arlington is a superior new urbanism project compared to Reston Town Center. Haven&#039;t seen anything better in Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pentagon Row in Arlington is a superior new urbanism project compared to Reston Town Center. Haven&#8217;t seen anything better in Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10898</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Waldo had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cvillenews.com/2007/04/25/albemarle-place-sewers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;relevant Blog entry&lt;/a&gt; about this a while back.  It&#039;s worth checking out, especially the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Waldo had a <a href="http://www.cvillenews.com/2007/04/25/albemarle-place-sewers/" rel="nofollow">relevant Blog entry</a> about this a while back.  It&#8217;s worth checking out, especially the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10897</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on all points, including the mac thing - I can&#039;t see the NBC29 video and I won&#039;t bother visiting their site.

I expect all of these yet-to-be-developed &quot;town centers&quot; are nothing more than re-branded strip malls.  I will be moving to c-ville next summer and the pedestrian aspect of the downtown mall is what draws me to the downtown area (Park St., etc).

The Reston Town Center is a wonderful creation primarily because it is friendly to pedestrians.  It is accessible via the W&amp;OD trail/path and is in an area with many crosswalks and pedestrian bridges.  Even if you arrive by car, once you park (in one of the many covered garages) you can easily get to all of the stores and restaurants by foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on all points, including the mac thing &#8211; I can&#8217;t see the NBC29 video and I won&#8217;t bother visiting their site.</p>
<p>I expect all of these yet-to-be-developed &#8220;town centers&#8221; are nothing more than re-branded strip malls.  I will be moving to c-ville next summer and the pedestrian aspect of the downtown mall is what draws me to the downtown area (Park St., etc).</p>
<p>The Reston Town Center is a wonderful creation primarily because it is friendly to pedestrians.  It is accessible via the W&amp;OD trail/path and is in an area with many crosswalks and pedestrian bridges.  Even if you arrive by car, once you park (in one of the many covered garages) you can easily get to all of the stores and restaurants by foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10896</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lonnie raises a number of good points.  The most interesting is &quot;but merely the way communities used to be&quot;.  Why did we develop in this way?

A fair amount of research indicates that many of these communities sprung up around train stations and along streetcar lines.  People walked to their homes from the station and did not mind living in the highly dense neighborhood because there really was not an option.  The streetcar went where it went and how far you walked, and in which direction, were determined by your ability to pay and the market.

The invention of the automobile, and more importantly the price point being within reach of average citizens, made the suburbs possible. No longer were those who worked in the city bound to live in the city.  Some chose to stay but the vast majority given the choice, citizens chose to move where they had more space.  

The question now is how to make the new town centers more attractive and a better economic equation than suburban living for the majority of homebuyers?  

If we are unable to answer this question, town centers will serve a small cohort of the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lonnie raises a number of good points.  The most interesting is &#8220;but merely the way communities used to be&#8221;.  Why did we develop in this way?</p>
<p>A fair amount of research indicates that many of these communities sprung up around train stations and along streetcar lines.  People walked to their homes from the station and did not mind living in the highly dense neighborhood because there really was not an option.  The streetcar went where it went and how far you walked, and in which direction, were determined by your ability to pay and the market.</p>
<p>The invention of the automobile, and more importantly the price point being within reach of average citizens, made the suburbs possible. No longer were those who worked in the city bound to live in the city.  Some chose to stay but the vast majority given the choice, citizens chose to move where they had more space.  </p>
<p>The question now is how to make the new town centers more attractive and a better economic equation than suburban living for the majority of homebuyers?  </p>
<p>If we are unable to answer this question, town centers will serve a small cohort of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10895</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Reston did a better job at anything remotely like a &quot;Town Center&quot; than we have, it is far from a model that we should aim for.  I&#039;ve still not seen a single example of a development within the Charlottesville/Albemarle area that even resembles a &quot;Town Center&quot;.  

The basic concept of the Town Center and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_urbanism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Urbanism&lt;/a&gt; is actually a reinvention of an old concept.  Where my grandmother lives in Mt. Olive North Carolina, they can walk to a grocery store, drug store, or just about anything else they need. There is also lots of community &quot;green space&quot;.  This isn&#039;t the result of some newfangled design or zoning, but merely the way communities used to be.  THAT should be our model.  If we want to use a more modern criteria, then here are the principles that one should find in a well designed town center (as one might find in Columbia Maryland):

1) Pedestrian Friendly.  If this one isn&#039;t true, then it simply isn&#039;t a &quot;Town Center&quot; by any definition.  It should also be accessible to bikes as well.

2) Mixed use and mixed income -  The same person should be able to live, shop, work and entertain themselves all without ever getting in a car. 

3) Community focal points.  There should be community gathering spots like a lake, park, or whatever that draws the community together. 

4) Greenspace.  In addition to the focal points, there should be a network of greenspace connecting adjoining Town Centers.  Ideally this would contain walking and cycling trails as seen in Columbia.

5) Parking on the perimeter.  There should be no parking in the &lt;i&gt;middle&lt;/i&gt; of the town centers.  There should be parking garages on the &lt;i&gt;edges&lt;/i&gt; where you can park and then walk into your destination.  To put this another way, if you measure the total pavement, and there is more, or almost as much, pavement than greenspace, shops and homes then it simply &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; a &quot;Town Center&quot;.

By the principles I&#039;ve outlined above, I think it&#039;s clear to see that local government has been pulling the wool over the communities eyes regarding the Neighborhood Model.  I&#039;ve yet to see a single development that gets even three out of five of the principles above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Reston did a better job at anything remotely like a &#8220;Town Center&#8221; than we have, it is far from a model that we should aim for.  I&#8217;ve still not seen a single example of a development within the Charlottesville/Albemarle area that even resembles a &#8220;Town Center&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The basic concept of the Town Center and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_urbanism" rel="nofollow">New Urbanism</a> is actually a reinvention of an old concept.  Where my grandmother lives in Mt. Olive North Carolina, they can walk to a grocery store, drug store, or just about anything else they need. There is also lots of community &#8220;green space&#8221;.  This isn&#8217;t the result of some newfangled design or zoning, but merely the way communities used to be.  THAT should be our model.  If we want to use a more modern criteria, then here are the principles that one should find in a well designed town center (as one might find in Columbia Maryland):</p>
<p>1) Pedestrian Friendly.  If this one isn&#8217;t true, then it simply isn&#8217;t a &#8220;Town Center&#8221; by any definition.  It should also be accessible to bikes as well.</p>
<p>2) Mixed use and mixed income &#8211;  The same person should be able to live, shop, work and entertain themselves all without ever getting in a car. </p>
<p>3) Community focal points.  There should be community gathering spots like a lake, park, or whatever that draws the community together. </p>
<p>4) Greenspace.  In addition to the focal points, there should be a network of greenspace connecting adjoining Town Centers.  Ideally this would contain walking and cycling trails as seen in Columbia.</p>
<p>5) Parking on the perimeter.  There should be no parking in the <i>middle</i> of the town centers.  There should be parking garages on the <i>edges</i> where you can park and then walk into your destination.  To put this another way, if you measure the total pavement, and there is more, or almost as much, pavement than greenspace, shops and homes then it simply <i>isn&#8217;t</i> a &#8220;Town Center&#8221;.</p>
<p>By the principles I&#8217;ve outlined above, I think it&#8217;s clear to see that local government has been pulling the wool over the communities eyes regarding the Neighborhood Model.  I&#8217;ve yet to see a single development that gets even three out of five of the principles above.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/11/27/charlottesvilles-town-centers/#comment-10893</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walkability????

A close examination of the Reston Town Center includes that it is --- surrounded by high density apartments/condos and -- parking lots.  I would venture to say that 80% of the consumers in the Reston Town Center drive to the location and then walk.  I wonder what the statistic is on the downtown mall.  Someone has to be filling those parking garages.

Another example that is often used is Meadowmont in Chapel Hill North Carolinia.  I visited Meadowmont a year ago this summer.  I found it most interesting that the neighborhood pool, which is only open to residents, had no parking available in its parking lot and in fact had attendees parking on the tightly designed neighborhood streets.  It seems the planners thought the parking lot capacity could be reduced because folks would walk.  The opposite is the case.

I believe community pools tend to be used by younger families -- those that have to haul diaper bags, water wings etc.  This use is not condusive to walking even the two blocks to the pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walkability????</p>
<p>A close examination of the Reston Town Center includes that it is &#8212; surrounded by high density apartments/condos and &#8212; parking lots.  I would venture to say that 80% of the consumers in the Reston Town Center drive to the location and then walk.  I wonder what the statistic is on the downtown mall.  Someone has to be filling those parking garages.</p>
<p>Another example that is often used is Meadowmont in Chapel Hill North Carolinia.  I visited Meadowmont a year ago this summer.  I found it most interesting that the neighborhood pool, which is only open to residents, had no parking available in its parking lot and in fact had attendees parking on the tightly designed neighborhood streets.  It seems the planners thought the parking lot capacity could be reduced because folks would walk.  The opposite is the case.</p>
<p>I believe community pools tend to be used by younger families &#8212; those that have to haul diaper bags, water wings etc.  This use is not condusive to walking even the two blocks to the pool.</p>
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