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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2008/02/18/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13439</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - 

What do we have to do to rid ourselves of Single Agent Dual Agency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; </p>
<p>What do we have to do to rid ourselves of Single Agent Dual Agency?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2008/02/18/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I agree with almost everything you say. The concept of singla agent Dual Agency is a legacy that needs to go away. 

I&#039;d be curious to know also if any companies out there, big or small, offer bonuses to their agents for selling one of their own listings, whether new or resale. 

A lot of buyers just don&#039;t understand the value of agency, and don&#039;t get the opportunity to learn from the first agent they meet what buyer&#039;s agency is.

See also - 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/06/19/all-the-agents-wanted-my-business/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All the agents wanted my business&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/09/10/default-position/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Default Position&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; I agree with almost everything you say. The concept of singla agent Dual Agency is a legacy that needs to go away. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to know also if any companies out there, big or small, offer bonuses to their agents for selling one of their own listings, whether new or resale. </p>
<p>A lot of buyers just don&#8217;t understand the value of agency, and don&#8217;t get the opportunity to learn from the first agent they meet what buyer&#8217;s agency is.</p>
<p>See also &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2007/06/19/all-the-agents-wanted-my-business/" rel="nofollow">All the agents wanted my business</a> and <a href="http://www.realcentralva.com/2006/09/10/default-position/" rel="nofollow">Default Position</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2008/02/18/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13433</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not constrained by the professional constraints of the more diplomatic posters above, I have three comments:

1. &lt;em&gt;ed note: name removed&lt;/em&gt; (the dominant local new home seller&#039;s agent) new home sales division is fundamentally crooked and deceptive about dual agency, and

2. Since there is no current way to check the blatant conflict of interest, anyone who can&#039;t use his common sense and figure that out dual agency, &lt;em&gt;ed note: name removed&lt;/em&gt;even the practice of using a RE agency to market new homes--are all bad ideas, the buyer deserves the screwing he&#039;ll probably get.

3. If I&#039;m buying a house I&#039;m damn sure going to explore the areas around the neighborhood ON MY OWN, including but not limited to looking at all the roads in and out. Anyone who needs a Realtor to figure that out had better hope their Realtor cares more about their clients&#039; well-being than 3%. Common sense = an oxymoron.

This is 2008. There is no excuse for putting your fate in the hands of a real estate agent (or an accountant, or a salesman, or a stock adviser, or the government, or...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not constrained by the professional constraints of the more diplomatic posters above, I have three comments:</p>
<p>1. <em>ed note: name removed</em> (the dominant local new home seller&#8217;s agent) new home sales division is fundamentally crooked and deceptive about dual agency, and</p>
<p>2. Since there is no current way to check the blatant conflict of interest, anyone who can&#8217;t use his common sense and figure that out dual agency, <em>ed note: name removed</em>even the practice of using a RE agency to market new homes&#8211;are all bad ideas, the buyer deserves the screwing he&#8217;ll probably get.</p>
<p>3. If I&#8217;m buying a house I&#8217;m damn sure going to explore the areas around the neighborhood ON MY OWN, including but not limited to looking at all the roads in and out. Anyone who needs a Realtor to figure that out had better hope their Realtor cares more about their clients&#8217; well-being than 3%. Common sense = an oxymoron.</p>
<p>This is 2008. There is no excuse for putting your fate in the hands of a real estate agent (or an accountant, or a salesman, or a stock adviser, or the government, or&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2008/02/18/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - 

Thanks for the comment. I&#039;ll take the hypothetical one step further - 

Say this is a new construction development and unsuspecting buyers come into the open house ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I&#8217;ll take the hypothetical one step further &#8211; </p>
<p>Say this is a new construction development and unsuspecting buyers come into the open house &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vita</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2008/02/18/stupid-is-as-stupid-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13421</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Vita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose the agent in this situation was both a buyer agent for this couple as well as the listing agent for this owner of this partucular house. 

Does he have an obligation to recommend designated agency? 

At what point might it be appropriate for him to recommend that designated agency come into play?
1. Does he show it to them first?  
2. Does he wait until they express some interest
   after the showing?  
3. Does he wait until they have discussed 
   possible terms, values, sellers motivation or 
   negotiation strategies?
4. Does he wait until an offer has been prepared?
5. At what point should he introduce them to 
   their new &quot;designated agent&quot;? 

If he does it after any of the five time periods above, is he acting as a dual agent himself until designated agency is invoked? 
  
At what point should the &quot;designated agent&quot; prefer to get involved?

Who showed the potential buyers the other way to access the property?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose the agent in this situation was both a buyer agent for this couple as well as the listing agent for this owner of this partucular house. </p>
<p>Does he have an obligation to recommend designated agency? </p>
<p>At what point might it be appropriate for him to recommend that designated agency come into play?<br />
1. Does he show it to them first?<br />
2. Does he wait until they express some interest<br />
   after the showing?<br />
3. Does he wait until they have discussed<br />
   possible terms, values, sellers motivation or<br />
   negotiation strategies?<br />
4. Does he wait until an offer has been prepared?<br />
5. At what point should he introduce them to<br />
   their new &#8220;designated agent&#8221;? </p>
<p>If he does it after any of the five time periods above, is he acting as a dual agent himself until designated agency is invoked? </p>
<p>At what point should the &#8220;designated agent&#8221; prefer to get involved?</p>
<p>Who showed the potential buyers the other way to access the property?</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a dual agent on more than one occasion.  Its not my favorite position to be in, but I certainly would have driven the couple both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a dual agent on more than one occasion.  Its not my favorite position to be in, but I certainly would have driven the couple both ways.</p>
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