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	<description>Tracking Charlottesville&#039;s Real Estate Market since 2005</description>
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		<title>By: Charlottesville Area Market Report Coming Soon &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-28000</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlottesville Area Market Report Coming Soon &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] asked before and I&#8217;ll ask again &#8211; What do you want to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: First Quarter Market Report for Charlottesville and Albemarle &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26370</link>
		<dc:creator>First Quarter Market Report for Charlottesville and Albemarle &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe&#8217;s question from my request for &#8220;what do you want to know&#8221; (thanks to the CAAR [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26327</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments and insight, everyone. I&#039;ll be publishing my market report on Monday ... lots to do over the weekend, and I look forward to seeing what our market may be doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments and insight, everyone. I&#8217;ll be publishing my market report on Monday &#8230; lots to do over the weekend, and I look forward to seeing what our market may be doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting for Change</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26293</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiting for Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many contracts are for short sales?  How many are for foreclosures?  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many contracts are for short sales?  How many are for foreclosures?  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pershing</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26270</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pershing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim you said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The County (or any local government) assessments are just that - assessments not appraisals.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Other than a timing issue (assessments are done once a year) that&#039;s purely semantics because from a dictionary definition standpoint there is very little difference between assessment and appraisal.

From a motive standpoint they are also aligned.  

Tax Assessors want to appraise houses at a high enough valuation based on current market conditions in order to collect the required taxes the county needs from the  property owner.  They will often use the rising bubble to their advantage to raise valuations in order to capture more tax revenue.   They are slower to adjust valuations downward but there is more political pressure to get them to do so in market conditions like we are facing now.

Appraisals are done on houses to justify loans to make lenders willing to make the loan.  Appraisers will also use the rising bubble to justify higher house prices, but in a falling market or illiquid market you will find many of them scrambling to hold on to pricing from a year ago to help the seller/buyer make the deal.  Unfortunately right now most banks are not convinced by appraisals without very recent comps.  Since there are not a lot of deals getting done this leads to a downward spiral and a deterioration of house values.

In the end it is all about what you believe.  As I said before assessments aren&#039;t the only thing to value a house, but people are paying attention to them.   

Sellers are going to need a REALLY GOOD justification on having their houses listed above assessed values if they expect the buyers let alone the banks to fund them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim you said:</p>
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The County (or any local government) assessments are just that &#8211; assessments not appraisals.</p></blockquote>
<p>Other than a timing issue (assessments are done once a year) that&#8217;s purely semantics because from a dictionary definition standpoint there is very little difference between assessment and appraisal.</p>
<p>From a motive standpoint they are also aligned.  </p>
<p>Tax Assessors want to appraise houses at a high enough valuation based on current market conditions in order to collect the required taxes the county needs from the  property owner.  They will often use the rising bubble to their advantage to raise valuations in order to capture more tax revenue.   They are slower to adjust valuations downward but there is more political pressure to get them to do so in market conditions like we are facing now.</p>
<p>Appraisals are done on houses to justify loans to make lenders willing to make the loan.  Appraisers will also use the rising bubble to justify higher house prices, but in a falling market or illiquid market you will find many of them scrambling to hold on to pricing from a year ago to help the seller/buyer make the deal.  Unfortunately right now most banks are not convinced by appraisals without very recent comps.  Since there are not a lot of deals getting done this leads to a downward spiral and a deterioration of house values.</p>
<p>In the end it is all about what you believe.  As I said before assessments aren&#8217;t the only thing to value a house, but people are paying attention to them.   </p>
<p>Sellers are going to need a REALLY GOOD justification on having their houses listed above assessed values if they expect the buyers let alone the banks to fund them.</p>
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		<title>By: Real C'ville - The Bubble Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26269</link>
		<dc:creator>Real C'ville - The Bubble Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the points that you suggest (price per sq ft, DOM, breakdown of single family, condo, attached, etc.) would be good to see.

In the comments section of one of the bubble posts, you gave a link to mls data which had info on each house sold.  That would be useful info as well.  (See comment #5 of this post:  http://realcville.blogspot.com/2009/03/charlottesville-real-estate-market.html  )

Would be very curious to know how many buyers are first timers...and how many are &quot;trading up&quot;, if you have access to that data...or even if it&#039;s anecdotal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the points that you suggest (price per sq ft, DOM, breakdown of single family, condo, attached, etc.) would be good to see.</p>
<p>In the comments section of one of the bubble posts, you gave a link to mls data which had info on each house sold.  That would be useful info as well.  (See comment #5 of this post:  <a href="http://realcville.blogspot.com/2009/03/charlottesville-real-estate-market.html" rel="nofollow">http://realcville.blogspot.com/2009/03/charlottesville-real-estate-market.html</a>  )</p>
<p>Would be very curious to know how many buyers are first timers&#8230;and how many are &#8220;trading up&#8221;, if you have access to that data&#8230;or even if it&#8217;s anecdotal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It doesn’t mean that the appraisers value is accurate, but it shows that buyers are paying close attention to it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s important to understand what buyers are paying attention to, and it&#039;s equally if not more important to understand what&#039;s accurate and what&#039;s not. 

I haven&#039;t had time yet to read your full post, but I want to point out one important point of clarification:

The County (or any local government) assessments are just that - &lt;em&gt;assessments&lt;/em&gt; not &lt;em&gt;appraisals&lt;/em&gt;.  

This is not  mere semantics, but a a crucial distinction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It doesn’t mean that the appraisers value is accurate, but it shows that buyers are paying close attention to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s important to understand what buyers are paying attention to, and it&#8217;s equally if not more important to understand what&#8217;s accurate and what&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had time yet to read your full post, but I want to point out one important point of clarification:</p>
<p>The County (or any local government) assessments are just that &#8211; <em>assessments</em> not <em>appraisals</em>.  </p>
<p>This is not  mere semantics, but a a crucial distinction.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pershing</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26267</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pershing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,

I liked your article, but there wasn&#039;t enough detail in there for me to determine how far off the assessments were.    

I put together an article regarding the assessments for Albemarle county based upon first quarter 2009 sales. 

My regression model shows that the sales price for properties under $1 million is:

Sales Price = -$6,650 + 1.007 * Appraisal

It doesn&#039;t mean that the appraisers value is accurate, but it shows that buyers are paying close attention to it.

For more details you can check it out at:

http://worthmoreorless.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-accurate-are-2009-albemarle-county.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,</p>
<p>I liked your article, but there wasn&#8217;t enough detail in there for me to determine how far off the assessments were.    </p>
<p>I put together an article regarding the assessments for Albemarle county based upon first quarter 2009 sales. </p>
<p>My regression model shows that the sales price for properties under $1 million is:</p>
<p>Sales Price = -$6,650 + 1.007 * Appraisal</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean that the appraisers value is accurate, but it shows that buyers are paying close attention to it.</p>
<p>For more details you can check it out at:</p>
<p><a href="http://worthmoreorless.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-accurate-are-2009-albemarle-county.html" rel="nofollow">http://worthmoreorless.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-accurate-are-2009-albemarle-county.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the assessed value to sale price about a month ago for the city... Sorry, I don&#039;t have an Access file of the county. If anyone has one, I&#039;m happy to run the same analysis there.
Part 1
http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=180
and
Part 2
http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=187</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the assessed value to sale price about a month ago for the city&#8230; Sorry, I don&#8217;t have an Access file of the county. If anyone has one, I&#8217;m happy to run the same analysis there.<br />
Part 1<br />
<a href="http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=180" rel="nofollow">http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=180</a><br />
and<br />
Part 2<br />
<a href="http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=187" rel="nofollow">http://www.dirtaroundgrounds.com/?p=187</a></p>
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		<title>By: Serious Buyer</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26265</link>
		<dc:creator>Serious Buyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see the percentage of listings with a price reduction YTD and the average %  price reduction YTD for Albermarle/C&#039;ville.  Also perhaps a table showing the correlation between %  price reduction and days on the market.
Thank you for asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see the percentage of listings with a price reduction YTD and the average %  price reduction YTD for Albermarle/C&#8217;ville.  Also perhaps a table showing the correlation between %  price reduction and days on the market.<br />
Thank you for asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pershing</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26263</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Pershing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see the ratio of Sold Price to 2009 Assessed Value.   So if a house sold for $400K and was assessed in 2009 for $500K that  would show 80%.  

Thanks!

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see the ratio of Sold Price to 2009 Assessed Value.   So if a house sold for $400K and was assessed in 2009 for $500K that  would show 80%.  </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.realcentralva.com/2009/03/31/what-do-you-want-to-know-3/#comment-26260</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see price/sq ft.  

I know there are &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; other factors when comparing a sales, but this one I used most heavily when I was last a buyer and one I will turn to when considering a sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see price/sq ft.  </p>
<p>I know there are <i>many</i> other factors when comparing a sales, but this one I used most heavily when I was last a buyer and one I will turn to when considering a sale.</p>
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